
(ink on paper, 9" x 12", Katie Hoffman and Matt McKenzie, 2011)
K: Well, let's talk about our project. Our project is called "Untitled: Books That Never Existed."
M: That's right. It certainly is.
K: But they exist now.
M: I thought about that the minute I jokingly offered that as our show. It's ironic!
K: What do we want to say about it?
M: I want to say that I don't know how to move a new layer in Gimp once you paste it.
K: Why are you using Gimp to make books? Is that ironic in some way?
M: Uh, it's not ironic. It's probably stupid but not ironic. I'm using Gimp to try and create, to make my stencils for my linocuts. There we go. That was a lot easier than I expected it to be.
K: Do you work well under pressure?
M: No, I do not. Not at all. I like to pretend that I do but it's not the case.
K: Do you have any questions for me?
M: So why did we decide to do an art show? Are we artists?
K: Definitely. Artists who don't allow enough time for themselves. Next time –
M: Artists Without Effort … like Doctors Without Borders?
K: If only I could diagnose that somehow.
K: So do you envision yourself in the future, maybe reading these books to your kids? Do you think they are primarily for kids? Who are your readers?
M: They are joke books for children. I don't think most children would care for it. I'm trying to use the aesthetic of what I feel a children's book would be but I don't think that the message is for children. I think it's for children that –
K: For the children inside us as adults?
M: For the children inside adults?
M: I am stealing everything for this book. Nothing is original.
K: Are you stealing images to make a point?
M: I'm not very talented as a visual artist and I'm not very talented at using the computer either but together these lacks of talent cohere into something that's passable.
K: What do you consider passable? What makes something into craft? What do you consider to be good art?
M: Lanyards are pretty excellent. God's eyes that you make out of popsicle are good craft. Anything that uses a hot glue gun is a craft.
K: Now you ask me a question.
M: If you were me, what question would you ask yourself?
K: Dammit.